Definitely not a vs topic. 40. Jetzt ist Cosmic Armor Superman im Grunde genommen von seiner besten Seite ein Oversversal (oder eine niedrigere Metaverse-Ebene), das für sich allein ist. Some said The Presence written by Neil Gaiman is supreme GOD of DC universe. It's a conscious unmanifest void. The Presence/The Source is God (in universe), all powerful and controls everything. Don’t do it. 67% Upvoted. Funny we ignore that, but use his much needed number to justify High-1B for our DC profiles. He rarely helps the heroes or interferes with anything, except he brought back the Earth once when it was destroyed. @xearesay: bruh matteis wrote that story pralaya is his character when asked he stayed she was apart of the presence he has written multiple story's about the presence and has always viewed him at the top again face palm his opinion matters right there, @y3kthunder: U mad Overvoid solos the Presence Overvoid was terrified of CAS who is the strongest character in all of fiction CAS can pull you into the comic book and beat you up so stop wanking. The Writer and The Presence are practically the same. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it.The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Mandrakk Presence isnt even in top 5 charecters like writer,leviathan,utu,enlil,gilgamesh,overvoid exists,you watch to much youtube or something like that. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Your assumptions are not evidence. Not sure if the storyline is canon but i didnt see anthing saying it was not. The Primal Monitor is what creation exists within. The overvoid is the paper and the prescense is the writer. Wouldn’t that be an aspect of the Overvoid/paper? Also marvel is more wanked compared to DC wank(normally superman or darksied). All versions of supreme entities and abstracts like The Overvoid are apart of The Presence. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. All of the evidence points to Presence-Source-Overvoid/Pralaya being a divine trinity. Name: God, The One Above All, The Creator, The Oversoul, The Void Beyond All Voids, The Source, The Overvoid, Monitor-Mind, The Presence, among many others Origin: DC Comics. Overvoid initially appeared as a copy of Intergalactic#8 within Intergalactic#8, discovered by the character Ignoble Steed. The Presence and The Overmonitor might be the same as well. Also zeno is not omnipotent by any means I doubt he could handle any of marvel or dcs God tiers. So The Presence, The Source, The Overmonitor/Overvoid are all the same being (supposedly). If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. Who wins? Why would we agree on something that there's no proof of? The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. The Presence, The Overvoid, and The Writer No, not asking for a Rumbles between these 3 entities. You can say that about every marvel fan ever. But nice reply to him, you really showed him, @userthatisme: alonis hates monitors or there fans he is poking fun, I didt read it I only read him saying Overvoid soloing presence. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. Hykuu. In Neil Gaimans cosmology. time and time again I see better feats. ill stop sending this stuff now I just wanna know why do YouTube commenters claim this stuff? And these are unquestionably the 3 most powerful entities (based on presentation) that DC ever published. The Presence is everywhere but also nowhere at once so no matter how many times Lucifer tries to escape The Presence, just realize The Presence is God and is omnipresent which means he is everywhere, everything, and nowhere at once. But due to it being marvel, nobody cares. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. Over Monitor Over monitor IS the overvoid, and the writers also established that the presence should be above the overvoid/void, tho he exists within the overvoid, he shouldn't be limited to it @tyr why ping me. My question is simple: do any of these 3 have any usable on-panel Rumble feats at all? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Is the dc writer really apart of the presence? Prayala is God's Unconsciousness and When she says absorb she literally says shes just the deep sleep which even god falls into. Overvoid is merely a concept where the presence created everything and didn't interfere. xearesay. Please click here if you are willing to help out. Explore Wikis ... the Void was just part of the Presence? XSUPREMEXSKILLZ. Both have different interpretation about DC comics. I wasted my time with a vs battle fan calc guy. Still below that of the Dc writer. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. CatL18 . Nobody is big brain without saying a trash character is omnipotent like Zeno. share. The same goes with The Writer. While Yahweh / Carey's Presence is the conscious, manifested, physical aspect of God within its own Dream. Games Movies TV Video. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. From the verse he is considered the god above all others. The Presence is a fictional character in comic books published by DC Comics. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. Follow 1820. Are you typing in a hurry? Powers and Stats. Snyder is not using Grant's version of the Source Wall, or anything else in the hierarchy. Thread starter Hykuu; Start date Nov 8, 2019; Tags dc comics monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the source Status Not open for further replies. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. I only see you wanking marvel and you never show feats for dc ever(or statements). Based on that, I have to assume that the Beyonder and One Above All wins. As a result, even beings such as The Presence, The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid are aspects of it. The point of battles is to have discussion, and you can’t have a discussion with infinitely powerful characters. I was joking about Zeno omnipotent thing. @userthatisme: You are wanking DC, I am not wanking Marvel. This is either a micheal Julius alt or my favourite troll. Above both is the race called the Eonymous. Powers and Stats. Overvoid 10/10 this fodder and his fodder verse. Which is true as dematties thinks creation to be a dream and when god isn't dreaming that's pralaya. Close. The Presence exist on the Overvoid and is therefore automatically inferior to it. It is not always clear how the Abrahamic God fits in to this scheme - for exampl… Posted by 1 month ago. They are the unseen "presence" with ultimate power over every story, bound behind their source wall (the fourth wall). Sounds false. And yet you constantly do this with Morrison's personal opinions. It is the Primal Monitor. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But I vaguely remember the Presence that he was shaped by external forces. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. Lucifer may have escaped creation itself and gone somewhere in the Overvoid, but note that The Overvoid and The Presence are actually related and are the same. The Overvoid Lurk is a narrative entity appearing both as and within a text. It certainly looks like they are above them. The Scan above just shows Eonymous to basically interpret us and yes he is above the Overvoid. Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. I'm not sure I'm reading it correctly or you writing wrong darkest knight made sphere of gods shudder with his might,sphere of gods contains heaven,hell,skyland,apokalips new genesis etc Also an aspect of the Overvoid called Pralaya has a sole purpose of bringing all things back to nothingness. People are just tending to make him look like a fodder which he isn't and I get it that overvoid is stronger than the presence but the presence isn't stronger than Toaa so imo Toaa wins against overvoid too. Pralaya is not an aspect of the Overvoid. vs Overvoid Cosmic Armor Superman Mandrakk Who wins? Darkseid is by far the weakest of the four. Prescense creates multiverses on it. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Nur der Monitor-Geist und Overvoid überschreiten die Präsenz in ihren Existenzebenen. CAS CANT BE FASTER THAN THE FASTEST MA ALIVE!! @xearesay prove you don’t troll. Aren’t they the readers? I have just learned now that the Presence isn’t truly omnipotent, although still far above Beyonder and Darkseid. Which is to monitor the universes. But The writer acting through the Presence is what it is. @userthatisme: in my opinion theyre worse and that's saying something cause I'll admit thanos is wanked they actually believe monitors solo everything absolutely everything. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. The religious cosmology of the multiverse is complex, with many pantheons of gods co-existing alongside each other. Why/How would they fight. So,it is very difficult to compare. The Presence is The GOD. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. To add to this I have an actual last image. Example: The Presence, the One Above All. Gan (Dark Tower) vs Overvoid (DC Comics) Battle. She is the aspect of the non existence of the presence or his Unconsciousness taken form. Do you even know what you are saying? People genuinely think thanos with ig is ”omnipotent” and the fact they don’t know anything or just ignore feats for dc characters claiming a weak feat can beat x from dc from y of marvel. But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy. Please click here if you are willing to help out. 40018621 7 mo 10 d . 1 of 2 Go to page. The fact that you can't see that speaks to your own ignorance and closemindedness. But, I will vote for Tema2. 11 comments. God = Source = Presence = Overvoid Merging Profiles. Monitors and the like are a cool concept for the purpose they serve. Entitäten wie The Voice und The Source sind nur Aspekte von The Presence. That's how I have always seen it. They're an infinite white canvas (which is the blank page of a comic book) the collective DC "story" (aka the omniverse and all DC properties together) is an ink splotch on said canvas. If a writer has an idea for any creative stories they come up with, it is done through the Presence. The One-Above-All vs Over Monitor # Over Monitor over monitor wins because the presence said that someone created him. Or it … Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, also known as The Void, The Overmonitor and The Primal Monitor, is the ultimate source of all creation of the DC Comics Franchise. While The presence is the hand and the pen. Tier: High 1-A. Bruh xea no offense but uh you do realize by saying pralaya is an aspect of the overvoid that you admit the overvoid is apart of the presence when asked matteis was very clear pralaya was apart of the presence and considering he made her I'ma take his word face palm, He’s a troll isn’t he? But that's the thing I'm not certain who could be considered the strongest verse in fiction, I'm unsure if there is a verse that could actually solo any other which is y I'd have to think hard on that and do some serious research and even then my answer my not satisfy, Honestly with the omnipotent statements, then verses would stalemate. Honestly though if you can’t give a list, it’s fine but I also wanna take that as a “DC is the most powerful verse in fiction” type thing. I think scp 3812 only loses to maybe lucifer but definitely the Presence, @userthatisme: given some time I'm sure I could give you a list that I think could potentially do the task. Soloed by batman ? Empty Hand vs The Presence # Empty Hand When the moniter species did exist the preasence was debatable for being in the true overvoid via scaling above most of the species, but now that there dead and only overmoniter/moniter exists this means we cannot classify the preasence as beyond godsphere overvoid … The Overvoid is an aspect of The Presence. Also with the multiverse, if you like can you put the most powerful you have researched? They are outsiders watching reality for entertainment which is the only reason they dont destroy it entirely iirc. And it's mentioned that even God will return to the sleep of brahma. The overvoid is a canvas of all DC creations. No. @userthatisme: The entire "paper" is on the desk of some random kid. The-One-Above-All is a character from Marvel Comics and the God of that universe. >Glad we agree that Overvoid is the comic page and Lucifer and The Presence are creations of Nix Uotan, who is the Authors avatar. Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Mandrakk or the Overvoid view DC reality as a microbe in comparison to it? The Presence The Overmonitor is the canvas, The Presence is the writer. 0 Kudos Antvasima. The "Overmonitor" is not a name for the Overvoid. So is The Source, The Oversoul, etc. Only Speedy Gonzales can outrun me, THE FLASH. I know this battle has been done before plenty of times, but whait I want to know is how can the OV be stronger than the Presence when it didn't even Kid spilling milk on it warps reality. The Writer (self-insert of Grant Morrison) is the "supreme being" that writes and governs the whole thing. Now if we are to take the Overvoid seriously, I'd say he's the paper to be drawn on if anything. Basically my interpretation is that. The presence more or less is the version he appears to human, good example being Yahweh. AnwaysOT: Epic, I just learnt of new characters. The Overvoid vs literally anything within DC doesn't make any sense. It is the blank page a writer use to create miracles. But in the real world, it is the comic book writer. Many claim poplular lore is that its the Presence. Meaning even The Presence will just return to the nothingness of the Overvoid. Wait I just noticed you aren’t saying anything true just jokes, sorry. @userthatisme: youtube is a funny place for debating, I like seeing what people say to me. I see.. but you failed, CAS was already infinitely faster than you before you were even born. Nothing like this has ever been stated in DC. I don’t see any tbh but give a good list of the ones you think can or you think are capable of. If you appreciate the VS Battles wiki, and can afford it, please make a donation to help keep our forum running, so we can continue to work hard to improve on the reliability of our wiki profile pages. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Discussions Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics itself. Next Last. Presence is arguably at best equal to the Overvoid and arguably below it. ignore omnipotent statements and ignore writer interpretations as so many verses would stalemate doing so. In the history of the DC Universe, the Presence is the fictionalized counterpart to the Godof the Abrahamic (but mostly Christian) religions. save. It's just a huge unknowable thing. It's a conscious unmanifest void. Lol. If you want to be anonymous, don't enter your real name when you donate. The Oversoul id the Presence at his highest. monitor-mind the overvoid the presence the writer tiering system Replies: 362; Forum: Content Revision; Tier upgrade for The eonymous. I saw that when I searched them up. hide. At the end of the issue, it was revealed that Overvoid was also the narrator of Wanderlust, having gained sentience through its own presence within the text. It includes elements from multiple religions, mythologies, and modern concepts such as the Endless. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. The Presence vs Over Monitor # The Presence I wanted to know your opinion on this. EmptyHand 4 mo 13 d . Lucifer and Michael are second to The Presence. In Morrrisons cosmology Snyder is using Kirby's version. Name: The Presence, the Source (In another belief system), Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, God Origin: DC Comics. It is the void outside every creation. Trying to become the fastest man alive.. Considering they are still on paper. Aren't they pretty much the same being? 1; 2; Next. 01:28, February 19, 2019. | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom FANDOM. NOOOOO! No, I was saying that all the things I said that are a part of the Presence are also a part of the writer. Others said Overvoid written by Grant Morrison is supreme. 2,441 447. Always felt like the presence was the writer himself manifesting into a character in DC. would you be able to list some characters able to solo DC? Loading editor. Either way, The Presence is omnipotent and his true form is completely identical to the Overvoid, so The Presence wins this one since he is THE god. T2 easily. @y3kthunder: Matteis said on twitter that this was personal view and therefore should have nothing to do with the comic. Tyrannus 5 mo 3 d . Wikis. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. report. You guys need to stop taking a writers personal opinion to the highest degree. Tier: High 1-A, likely 0. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. @userthatisme: A random Eonymous has overvoid on his desk and its threated like worthless trash. zopzop. Overvoid > The Presence. I just dont recall if DC was ever clear on who is the end all-be all in DC. Pralaya is the Overvoid, according to you, and is named synonymously with the Source, who is a like being to the Presence, and is also called an aspect of the Presence by the author. 10 months ago. How am I wanking dc? Overvoid is, and never will be above The Presence. It has never been suggested that the Overvoid is superior to anything on it. I said larfleeze can beat hotu thanos lol, @userthatisme: overvoid>>>>>>>mandrakk and cas >>>>>>>toaa/Presence< fiction. The Presence is a powerful being originating from the DC universe. More History; Done. Go. @userthatisme: unfortunately not he is no troll he is dead serious in his beliefs same with the rest of the monitor fan base. 1. Even without the statement, the verses essentially can be stalemated like DC and SCP can stalemate completely. The character debuted in More Fun Comics #52 (February 1940), and was created by Jerry Siegel and Bernard Baily Publication history. Also if you had any analytical skills, you would know that I was just trolling and mocking xearfesay and Mj. Due it's nature, by default anything that exist on it is inferior to it. It is the canvas on which all creation then exists in. @userthatisme: ah gotcha on the zeno thing. I should know because vlad from accounting Is omnipotent. DeMattes' Presence / Kirby's Source / Morrison's Overvoid are more or less the same thing. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I believe there are rules against making straight-up omnipotence vs omnipotence rumbles, yes? You kinda dumb ngl. Because if so, this is taking "stop hitting yourself" to a whole new level. Sorry for the confusion. Save changes Preview Cancel. 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