Check the door fit overall. 07-11-2001, 04:19 PM. I realized that my topic may have been missleading since I asked how to keep paint from sticking. Both water and oil-based paints need to fully cure before you allow them to contact another object. Between the two viable alternatives that I have outlined above, I would say that you will probably get a little better seal from the silicone bulb screw on type of weatherstripping and the Pemko S44 makes for a cleaner installation. Remove the door for the final step. Both would probably serve you well. Either way, the stickiness is worsening and is particularly bad in summer. Sand away bumps and lumps to allow the paint to dry smoothly, lessening the chances of the freshly painted door sticking to the jamb. A balmy day with the sun shining would make it stick. Very common problem with a simple solution. I don’t understand the chemistry of it but it’s real. Attaching Weatherstripping Cut bronze strips to just fit the sides of the window frame and the bottom of the window. How To Prevent Freshly Painted Doors From Sticking - Tired of closing and opening a painted door and having all your paint pull off? Seconding this. Weatherstripping sticks to freshly painted doors. Sign up to my newsletter to receive expert advice for your home! The Columbia product is the one that I have used for many years and have had consistent success with. The next day I … Both these problems can be avoided by making sure that your door is well cleaned at least once every three months. My article and comments below only apply to weatherstrip on pedestrian doors….Swinging doors that you walk through. Undesirable adhesion between two painted surfaces or between paint and weather stripping. RC/DG. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Best of luck with fixing that really annoying problem! This stripping will hold up well for hundreds of years. The flap on it pops out and presses against the edge of the door to create a seal. It seals very well and does not stick to paint but it can only be used in new construction because the door jambs have to be modified to accept the product. Pemko 297_S Post Cancel. To prevent this problem from ever happening again, all you have to do is remove the weatherstripping from the door jamb before you start the painting job. The door will have to be painted one side at a time, but both the jamb and the edges of the door will dry quicker once the door is removed. How To Prevent Freshly Painted Doors From Sticking - Tired of closing and opening a painted door and having all your paint pull off? You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. It’s time to re-do the jamb-up weatherstripping (metal frame with vinyl/silicone bulb) on my front door. Painting The Door In Place Step 1 Leave the door wide open after you have finished painting it. That stuff can be a messy nightmare so there’s no rubbing it off with a rag. Replace it with a new seal after your painting project is completed. Relevance. The two manufacturers are: The back seal is a part of the bulb that extends around behind the aluminum part of the weatherstrip. Step 2 Check for a Loose Hinge Photo by Craig Raine. How do you prevent a newly painted exterior door from sticking to the seal? I went to the store, bought a roll of black 1" electrical tape, and put it on the backside of the weather stripping...took about 2 minutes. Also, remove the weatherstripping around the … This can happen even if you let the paint dry overnight and it feels dry. You don’t want to see the bulb getting crushed by the door especially on the hinge side. Looks like the AM company requires a minimum purchase but it would not hurt to call. Check to be sure that you are blocking out the light as you go and before you install all of the screws. 1 decade ago. Thank you for your inquiry. Take a sanding block and just hit the top of the door. Worn Out Weather stripping. The finish code goes where the underscore is. I hope this helps, if your question IS about “people doors” . The wood can swell in the hot and humid summer air, the hinges can become loose with usage, and your house can even shift and settle over time, causing changes in the frame. 6. Painting a smooth door gives paint better contact. Paint does not stick well to the rubber anyway and from your pic, it looks like some bled around to the backside of the rubber strip which, to me, is the cause of the problem. TOM: Well, it’s just like when your door gets stuck on your car when it ices shut. But after fixing them, Tom finds that the door still sticks. You should be able to order this fairly easily at the quality hardware store that I alluded to earlier. By that, you are not applying the insulation tape directly to the door but instead applying the insulation tape to something removable but firm. I know that acrylic paint takes some time to cure. In sympathy with your plight, I too have seen books lightly sticking to latex-coated shelves after years of drying! I washed and degreased the door and weatherstripping as well before applying the spray. That darn vinyl bulb will always stick to the latex paint. You can apply a DIY weatherstripping door seal strip to stop leaks and aid with climate control. Hot, dry weather accelerates curing and cool, wet weather slows paint curing. While the door is removed, check all weather stripping for loose or damaged areas. Don’t bother with big box store for this one. The paint sticks to itself or to the weather stripping when a window or door is opened and usually leaves bare patches of substrate. A door draft stopper also keeps out dust and insects. I used a sanding block to take down the elevated areas of the paint on the door and jam. I think this is the case because you say that the bulb itself feels sticky…This is not normal! Let us know what happens. This can be a real problem for exterior doors with weather stripping; after all, most of us are not so secure that we would leave our front doors open for three or four days and nights. Thanks again! 3 Answers. Even if you wait 24 hours and if the paint feels dry to the touch; that isn’t enough time. Or, let’s say you’re installing your new weatherstripping and some fresh adhesive squeezes out from underneath the weatherstrip and onto your beautiful paint job. Fortunately, a door that sticks is easy to repair. To remove the weatherstripping, start at one end of a piece of the weatherstripping and pull the fin out of the groove. The best way to avoid blocking is to avoid latex paints for 1) surfaces that contact each other and 2) surfaces you put things on, such as bookshelves. Most have oil based primer from the factory. I would suggest treating yourself to a set of the silicone bulb weatherstripping that I describe above. Hi Dan, The vinyl bulb on standard inexpensive weatherstripping does not usually stick to oil base products. [I have read elsewhere on your site that I should get a silicone bulb instead of a vinyl one to prevent the paint-peeling that happens with vinyl, so I’m glad for that tip.). Candle wax does not attract and hold dirt and grime like vaseline would. I adjusted the weather-stripping so that it was just touching the front door. The paint sticks to itself or to the weather stripping when a window or door is opened and usually leaves bare patches of substrate. I am not really set up for mail order stuff. Even if you wait 24 hours and if the paint feels dry to the touch; that isn’t enough time. This is a smart home project we'll assist you with every step of the way. George, I look forward to the great results! Can you send me a clear picture of the weatherstripping that you have? Remove the door again and either continue sanding until the door operates smoothly or, if the problem is fixed, reapply paint… When you have had your windows and doors newly painted it seems it doesn’t matter how many hours you leave them open to dry, they always seem to stick. It would have been installed on exterior doors that were installed before about 1990. Weatherstripping sticks to freshly painted doors. Is it possible the door catch is set very tight? Here are the part #s: Vinyl weatherstripping sticks to painted door : Art: 12/20/99 12:00 AM: I painted our wood front door using a white satin latex paint over a primer. This could be paint from years before I owned my home, or could be from the two times I've had my house painted since I've owned it. Acrylic latex paint is notorious for “blocking” or sticking to almost any surface it is in contact with while it cures. You should be able to special order one or the other from a quality local hardware store or lumber yard near you…Probably not a big box store. Most often used for mood lighting, candles can do double duty keeping stubborn doors and windows from sticking and sliding doors gliding. A quick tutorial on the materials and techniques for weatherstripping doors quick, cheap and dirty using peel-and-stick gaskets. Doors can start sticking for various reasons, and it’s always a hassle. Check Weather Stripping. In fact, it pulls the paint right off the door. If you’re troubleshooting hasn’t resolved the problem of a sticking sliding patio door, contact a patio door expert and have them take a look. This is why your door continues to stick. Then apply a thin coat of Vaseline on the edge of the door and the weather stripping. Sand the newly primed spots to blend in with the rest of the door surface. Forum discussion: The paint on my garage door is sticking to the painted vinyl flashing around it causing the door to "e;jump"e; as it is comes unstuck. Question # 2: The kerf style (Q lon) weatherstrip is the modern product that we use in almost all new residential door installations. Please repost and we can bat it around a little more. I have not seen anything but a single strip of rubber on garage door here in Florida. I don’t really like this solution because it is temporary and kind of messy. Best of luck, Sir! Reattach the door to test for sticking. The door may stick tight enough to warrant yanking to open it or shoving to securely close it. Sometimes the reason for the door sticking could be a slight obstruction that is not directly visible, or the accumulation of dirt in the hinges. Full curing of the paint can take up to a few weeks. I am having the same problem – except my door is not painted with latex it is covered with oil base polyurethane, the finish is at least 10 years old. Use a coarse grit, followed by a fine-grit sandpaper to sand away the paint. However, humidity also has a lot to do with it. The purpose of weather stripping is to block drafts from the outdoors. This was not a very repeatable solution. If your door or window currently has weather stripping, remove it before you place the new piece down. Using a belt sander like the 3-inch x 21-inch Dragster™ Belt Sander, sand the surface of the door at each sticking point you have marked. To be safe, wait at least two days before closing an interior door. With an exterior door, either remove the weather stripping or cover it with painter's tape so the paint won't stick. Hi Dave, Hi Marcia, RC/DG. Keep the door open for as long as it takes to allow every little nick and corner to become completely dry. Dan Bergtholdt. Door weatherstripping can stick to freshly painted doors. It doesn’t have anything to do with letting the paint dry for a certain amount of time (Even a month). Thanks for any advice, will be waiting to hear from you before I try to install the weather strip again. Also, remove the weather-stripping around the door prior to painting it. A local Ace or Tru value hardware store or a lumber yard or door shop should be able to order the Pemko product for you . If your door has already started to stick, take it off and clean thoroughly including in the hinges as well. Question: I painted my formerly stained front door with gloss exterior latex, and the paint sticks to the rubber weatherstripping. Doors, Skylights and Windows - Newly painted door sticking on weatherstripping - I repainted my side door and put new weatherstripping up last week. We allowed the door … Favourite answer. Subscribe to the FREE Ask the Builder newsletter to receive professional advice for your home. Step 2 Sand and/or scrape the side of the door and the door jamb with a paint scraper or electric sander. Even the best paint won't stick well to oil and dirt, and there's lots of both on doors, especially near the knob, where dirty hands have pushed and pulled for years. To my knowledge MD does not offer a silicon bulb for their weatherstrip, only vinyl. While a too tight installation certainly contributes to this problem I think in your case that the bulb itself is defective or just an inferior product. A door that sticks is one of those house fix-it problems that you know is simple to repair, but somehow you never quite get around to doing it. After you repaint the areas that were pulled away, and stuck to the weater strip. It’s this vinyl bulb that causes the sticking. Installing weatherstripping is a great way to cover a window or door for winter. Two companies that sell professional grade weatherseal products are Pemko and Columbia Aluminum Products. Sand away bumps and lumps to allow the paint to dry smoothly, lessening the chances of the freshly painted door sticking to the jamb. Comment. I hope that helps a bit….Please re-comment with any more questions. They are both saying the right things. Knowing this in advance will allow you to plan ahead when installing your exterior door. Allow to dry (with door cracked) for 4 to 6 hours. Would petroleum jelly or a spray lubricant offer any help? It is a good alternative if you do not want to see the weatherstrip screwed to the door stop area. Because it really does feel like it’s sealed shut. Satisfied that humidity is the culprit, he pulls the hinge pins, lifts the door from the jamb, and gets ready to plane. I called a good garage door guy and he pointed out the paint that was on the weather stripping was sticking to the door...probably from sloppy painting. I don’t talk about pricing on anything because it varies in different areas. Vinyl weatherstripping sticks to painted door Showing 1-21 of 21 messages. 3 years ago. Thanks, Marcia. 2 months later I installed Frost King vinyl/aluminum weather-stripping. Photo by oskay.. Most of the time in new construction we use a product called kerf style or kerf applied weatherstripping. Exterior Door Weatherstripping Sticks to Doors. I have painted doors with oil based paint for 50 years with no issues. The sticking painted door top or edges can be sanded or planed. RC/DG, Thanks, I will let you know how it turns out. If the posted comments don’t help, you could register and ask your own question. The Vaseline idea sounds good. They were quite helpful and said that they don’t make a product with a silicon bulb. Painted doors sticking. That's why I suggested the baby oil for the BACK SIDE of the rubber seals, the part that actually touches the doors when they go up and down. I did find an online forum that might help: The best way to avoid blocking is to avoid latex paints for 1) surfaces that contact each other and … I used an exterior latex paint and waited until the doors were dry before closing them. I am sure that it is still in use but I don’t see much of it at all. You can try to address the stickiness by rubbing some vaseline on the bulb. Thanks for contacting me and I hope that helps a bit! Do you think I installed it too tight? BTW….I lived in Lynn Ranch from about 1957 to 1962….My parents bought one Columbia Aluminum Products part # is 320S and Vacuum, rinse and dry as before. Forum discussion: The paint on my garage door is sticking to the painted vinyl flashing around it causing the door to "e;jump"e; as it is comes unstuck. You peel of the backing paper and attach it to door jamb near the stop. Also, remove the weather-stripping around the door prior to painting it. Here are a few things you can do to prevent a freshly painted exterior door from sticking. If it is, you can replace the bulb. The silicone bulb does not stick to latex paint and as an added bonus provides a better weatherseal than the vinyl. It could go a month if the weather was cold. Unfortunately it does not lend itself to your situation because it requires about 3/8″ of space and a groove to attach the fin of the weatherstrip. If so, repeat steps 5 and 6 until the door is sanded down far enough. The problem is some weatherstrips are so good, they block this evaporation process when the door is closed. Two companies that I know of make this item with an optional silicone bulb. A big box store would be less helpful because they do not usually carry Pemko products. Put screws in every other hole and check your work by opening and closing the door. This curing process can take days and sometimes weeks depending upon the type of paint and the weather. While awaiting your answer, I called MD’s Customer Service line. You just need to either repaint the door or possibly touch it up if that is acceptable. It’s this vinyl bulb that causes the sticking. Seems to happen after it warms up a bit. RC/DG, RC/DG: Joe, that is easy: Apply invisible tape or painters tape onto the door underneath where you want to put the insulation tape. Thank you for your inquiry. Continue lightly sanding the rest of the door, just enough to remove any gloss and help the new coat of paint adhere better. In sympathy with your plight, I too have seen books lightly sticking to latex-coated shelves after years of drying! Answer Save. Plus, I like to support small business anyway! The weather strip that we are talking about was used before they invented the kerf weatherstrip described above. Well, you found a couple of sources that I did not know about….Thanks for sharing! http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192172 . The garage door tech explained that this results from latex paint, which is partially on the back side of the weather stripping rubber, that gets really tacky in the heat and direct sun. Would it be practical/impractical/possible to try to switch to that style? And, can I buy it from you, as so far I’ve called three places and can’t find it. The HOA recently repainted the door and replaced the weather stripping but now it sticks … Good luck. It pulled the varnish off only certain areas, and feels very sticky on hot days. The paint actually will take longer to dry than you think. It seems you let that happen. I can tell by looking at it if it is the one that I use. On most doors You can pull the seals out. This can be a real problem for exterior doors with weather stripping; after all, most of us are not so secure that we would leave our front doors open for three or four days and nights. Joined Jul 16, 2010 Messages 10,380 Reaction score 6,438 Points 749 Location The Weirs, New Hampshire Resorts Owned Smugglers Notch Resort Innseason Pollard Brook May 3, 2015 #1 Just paid a lot of money to have some painting … Photo by oskay.. Making the fit between the door edge and the door stop very tight? Thanks. This fixed the "sticking" sound and since it's very cold and humid at this time of year, I'll hold off re-painting 'til the weather changes so the paint can FULLY dry before re-hanging the doors. This will allow the true cure time to your paint, and it wont stick. Just where paint touches paint. I painted a garage door with an exterior latex paint over 5 years ago and, in the warm weather, I still hear the sound of the tacky paint breaking contact as the door goes up! He said getting the paint off is almost impossible. Now, even a year later, whenever we open or shut the door it sticks a bit to the weatherstripping. Another solution for a concealed product that works well is a stick on silicone v product that installs inside the part of the jamb where the door is located. This fixed the "sticking" sound and since it's very cold and humid at this time of year, I'll hold off re-painting 'til the weather changes so the paint can FULLY dry before re-hanging the doors. Sometimes sticking paint can be resolved by tightening or adjusting the hinges. Most often used for mood lighting, candles can do double duty keeping stubborn doors and windows from sticking and sliding doors gliding. Sometimes there is just too much paint. Never a sticking door or paint failure. I purchased what I was told was silicon weather stripping from the local ACE hardware, but the manufacturer is MD Building Products, Oklahoma City (#MD01073). Other buzzwords that I’m coming up with when I search this topic are “conservation technologies” “Q-Lon” and “Interlocking Metal.”. We allowed the door to dry for about 8 hours. Powdering Exterior Doors to Prevent Sticking. « Do your doors swing open or close by themselves? Newly painted surfaces sticking together. You’re in the garage, you’re tackling that weatherstripping project (thanks to the killer parts you got from Steele Rubber Products, of course) but you’ve got some old, stubborn adhesive standing in your way that just won’t give up. Be sure to use brass nails. Very common problem with a simple solution. Sand the door top or edges, depending on where it is sticking. Sand away bumps and lumps to allow the paint to dry smoothly, lessening the chances of the freshly painted door sticking to the jamb. It is called jamb-up, jamb applied or stop applied weatherstrip. You will be far better off using professional grade products from Pemko or Columbia. Auto body shops just started using water based paint because of environmental reasons, not because oil paint was no good on exterior metal surfaces. Here is a picture that might help a bit: . 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